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	<title>Comments on: Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Dru</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1990</link>
		<dc:creator>Dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA is right, though; Al Gore says he&#039;s all for environmental rights, yet (as PETA states) factory farming is the number one cause of global warming.  Al Gore ignoring this fact in his documentary and his own personal life seems pretty. damn. hypocritical.  Just sayin&#039;.

Also, some of the comments in here are so hilariously absurd, like this Jackie girl saying that we need to continue systematically killing chickens and milking cows generation after generation after generation is horribly inhumane settings because, hey, if we didn&#039;t, they&#039;d roam our streets!  Like, my mouth dropped.  This is not a smart person.

Last point: the vast, vast majority of human cultures throughout history have been -mostly- vegetarian.  Not completely, but mostly.  Modern culture has gotten wayyy out of hand, and the idea that we have to have a slab of meat on every plate otherwise it&#039;s not a meal?  Ludicrous.  A small portion of meat in your diet is good, even if some people (myself included) choose not to partake in that.  But eating mostly meat during every meal is much, MUCH worse for your diet.  Find a balance, people.

For everyone going &quot;humanely raised&quot;, reducing meat intake, etc; hurrah.  That&#039;s a great step in the right direction.  But I feel the only thing that will stop the madness that is factory farming is genetically grown meat.  The typical modern person just craves meat and refuses to face any evidence to suggest that it&#039;s bad for them, the environment, or that it&#039;s unethical.  It&#039;s sad but people are going to put up their blinders to keep doing what they like to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA is right, though; Al Gore says he&#8217;s all for environmental rights, yet (as PETA states) factory farming is the number one cause of global warming.  Al Gore ignoring this fact in his documentary and his own personal life seems pretty. damn. hypocritical.  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Also, some of the comments in here are so hilariously absurd, like this Jackie girl saying that we need to continue systematically killing chickens and milking cows generation after generation after generation is horribly inhumane settings because, hey, if we didn&#8217;t, they&#8217;d roam our streets!  Like, my mouth dropped.  This is not a smart person.</p>
<p>Last point: the vast, vast majority of human cultures throughout history have been -mostly- vegetarian.  Not completely, but mostly.  Modern culture has gotten wayyy out of hand, and the idea that we have to have a slab of meat on every plate otherwise it&#8217;s not a meal?  Ludicrous.  A small portion of meat in your diet is good, even if some people (myself included) choose not to partake in that.  But eating mostly meat during every meal is much, MUCH worse for your diet.  Find a balance, people.</p>
<p>For everyone going &#8220;humanely raised&#8221;, reducing meat intake, etc; hurrah.  That&#8217;s a great step in the right direction.  But I feel the only thing that will stop the madness that is factory farming is genetically grown meat.  The typical modern person just craves meat and refuses to face any evidence to suggest that it&#8217;s bad for them, the environment, or that it&#8217;s unethical.  It&#8217;s sad but people are going to put up their blinders to keep doing what they like to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegetarian diet is theoretically good for health... The question is... are you taking the correct vegetarian diet... vegetarian diet causing health problem did exist... but I rarely heard about it...  one or two cases... I am taking vegetarian diet most of the time... Probably, if you really concern about living healthy with vegetarian diet... try consult nutritionist...

from what i know... the only vitamins that vegan or vegetarian food lack of is b12... try taking b complex... b12 is only from animal but b12 can also be taken from deactivated yeast.... some body builders are vegan... but they know their diet....

I do not have objections on dairy products... but only if it is from organic farm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegetarian diet is theoretically good for health&#8230; The question is&#8230; are you taking the correct vegetarian diet&#8230; vegetarian diet causing health problem did exist&#8230; but I rarely heard about it&#8230;  one or two cases&#8230; I am taking vegetarian diet most of the time&#8230; Probably, if you really concern about living healthy with vegetarian diet&#8230; try consult nutritionist&#8230;</p>
<p>from what i know&#8230; the only vitamins that vegan or vegetarian food lack of is b12&#8230; try taking b complex&#8230; b12 is only from animal but b12 can also be taken from deactivated yeast&#8230;. some body builders are vegan&#8230; but they know their diet&#8230;.</p>
<p>I do not have objections on dairy products&#8230; but only if it is from organic farm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vallow Shall</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>Vallow Shall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your post.  I also like your rants because I know of so many &quot;vegans&quot; who live horrible lifestyles of selfishnes, abuse to other people, and inconsistencies.  How can one preach morals and live like a villian?  They also lie, A LOT!  Militancy has not place in how or what we eat.  I am sick of all these &quot;ovo-lacto-pesco-ipso-facto idjits.  And now for my little &quot;poime:&quot;

Vegetarians don’t eat flesh
What a simple phrase
Vegetarians also don’t eat fish
It doesn’t work that way

If you eat fish or eggs
You are not a ‘tarian
If you eat shell animals
You are just like I am

I love vegetarianism
It’s a sound way to eat
But you are NOT a vegetarian
If you eat ANY TYPE of meat

Thank you.  I&#039;ll be here all week and try the veal (just kidding).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your post.  I also like your rants because I know of so many &#8220;vegans&#8221; who live horrible lifestyles of selfishnes, abuse to other people, and inconsistencies.  How can one preach morals and live like a villian?  They also lie, A LOT!  Militancy has not place in how or what we eat.  I am sick of all these &#8220;ovo-lacto-pesco-ipso-facto idjits.  And now for my little &#8220;poime:&#8221;</p>
<p>Vegetarians don’t eat flesh<br />
What a simple phrase<br />
Vegetarians also don’t eat fish<br />
It doesn’t work that way</p>
<p>If you eat fish or eggs<br />
You are not a ‘tarian<br />
If you eat shell animals<br />
You are just like I am</p>
<p>I love vegetarianism<br />
It’s a sound way to eat<br />
But you are NOT a vegetarian<br />
If you eat ANY TYPE of meat</p>
<p>Thank you.  I&#8217;ll be here all week and try the veal (just kidding).</p>
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		<title>By: The Virtues Of Vinegar : Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1987</link>
		<dc:creator>The Virtues Of Vinegar : Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would help their cause. If anything it made me rethink my decision to eat there next week.&quot; from Nature Moms via Veggie Chic and Kids [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would help their cause. If anything it made me rethink my decision to eat there next week.&#8221; from Nature Moms via Veggie Chic and Kids [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1986</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaTara I read recently in a book from a raw vegan that she changed her mind about the honey issue after she met a very ethical bee keeper. He explained that were lots of very ethical bee keepers that go out of their way to potect their bees and make their populations thrive. They are actually helping with the larger problem of bee populations dying off. The bees keepers are providing them with everything they are struggling to find in the wild on their own. But if no one eats the honey than they can&#039;t make a living and they have to give up...perhaps selling their colonies to someone who won&#039;t care for them and only wants money...so using honey CAN be an excellent way to actually support bees and help them thrive if you are buying it from the right places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaTara I read recently in a book from a raw vegan that she changed her mind about the honey issue after she met a very ethical bee keeper. He explained that were lots of very ethical bee keepers that go out of their way to potect their bees and make their populations thrive. They are actually helping with the larger problem of bee populations dying off. The bees keepers are providing them with everything they are struggling to find in the wild on their own. But if no one eats the honey than they can&#8217;t make a living and they have to give up&#8230;perhaps selling their colonies to someone who won&#8217;t care for them and only wants money&#8230;so using honey CAN be an excellent way to actually support bees and help them thrive if you are buying it from the right places.</p>
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		<title>By: LaTara Ham-Ying</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1985</link>
		<dc:creator>LaTara Ham-Ying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the clarification Tiffany. I understand your issue with vegetarians and vegans who out meat eaters down. It happens to me even as a vegan because we eat honey. For me it is neither here nor there.

Thanks again for the clarification.

&lt;em&gt;LaTara Ham-Ying&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 - Vegan Snacks&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clarification Tiffany. I understand your issue with vegetarians and vegans who out meat eaters down. It happens to me even as a vegan because we eat honey. For me it is neither here nor there.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the clarification.</p>
<p><em>LaTara Ham-Ying&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8' >Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 &#8211; Vegan Snacks</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi LaTara, I am not sure why you thought my post was judging vegetarians or vegans because that is not what it was meant to do. I have many vegan friends and I am just fine with their dietary decisions. This post was meant call out those that judge the meat eaters, including those that eat meat as ethically as possible...like myself. Meat eaters are constantly bashed by the veggie crowd for being uncompassionate and for being pseudo environmentalists. Just look at the comments on this post and the people who mention that vegans are &quot;compassionate&quot; as if we can miss the point that meat eaters are heartless meanies.

As I stated I can only go by my own experience with vegetarian eating and it worked out quite badly for me...I would never go that route again unless sit was all raw as well but even then it is not likely. What I did not mention was that I got mono while I was eating vegetarian because my immune system was so suppressed and I inadvertently passed it to a friend of mine who nearly died of spinal meningitis. It took a long time for my body to recover from the trauma I put it through. Maybe I was doing some things wrong but I think two years was a pretty good &quot;try&quot;.

That doesn&#039;t mean I think there are no healthy vegans...I know that there are...I know several raw vegans that are VERY healthy. But even with them I get annoyed with the attitude toward meat eaters...even raw meat eaters. I don&#039;t like being called uncompassionate, or a killer, or a fake environmentalist because I choose to eat animal products ...that is what I was trying to get across with this post.

Sorry you were offended LaTara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi LaTara, I am not sure why you thought my post was judging vegetarians or vegans because that is not what it was meant to do. I have many vegan friends and I am just fine with their dietary decisions. This post was meant call out those that judge the meat eaters, including those that eat meat as ethically as possible&#8230;like myself. Meat eaters are constantly bashed by the veggie crowd for being uncompassionate and for being pseudo environmentalists. Just look at the comments on this post and the people who mention that vegans are &#8220;compassionate&#8221; as if we can miss the point that meat eaters are heartless meanies.</p>
<p>As I stated I can only go by my own experience with vegetarian eating and it worked out quite badly for me&#8230;I would never go that route again unless sit was all raw as well but even then it is not likely. What I did not mention was that I got mono while I was eating vegetarian because my immune system was so suppressed and I inadvertently passed it to a friend of mine who nearly died of spinal meningitis. It took a long time for my body to recover from the trauma I put it through. Maybe I was doing some things wrong but I think two years was a pretty good &#8220;try&#8221;.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I think there are no healthy vegans&#8230;I know that there are&#8230;I know several raw vegans that are VERY healthy. But even with them I get annoyed with the attitude toward meat eaters&#8230;even raw meat eaters. I don&#8217;t like being called uncompassionate, or a killer, or a fake environmentalist because I choose to eat animal products &#8230;that is what I was trying to get across with this post.</p>
<p>Sorry you were offended LaTara.</p>
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		<title>By: LaTara Ham-Ying</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>LaTara Ham-Ying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I am very saddened by what I am reading. I am a vegan. Not because of animal rights, or anything like that; but for other reasons. I am healthier as a result of going vegan.

Judging a person because they are or are not is not right. This is why I am so hesitant at times to share my journey, even though I have a vegan business. It is still very painful.

Being a vegan is just like being a meat eater. It is all about balance. The same vitamins that are in meat can be found in many fruits, vegetables, grains, and other items. Here is a good place to learn more http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/where_nutrients.htm

I am sorry that some of you have had a bad experience being vegetarian or vegan. But I do not think it is fair to knock it if you do not know all there is to know about it.

I never judge someone because of what they choose to eat. I do share, however, the fact that if you do choose to eat meat, make sure it is as organic as possible and is free range. I tell them same about dairy.

I do not follow  PETA or any vegetarian or vegan societies that promote treating people wrong. I just don&#039;t roll like that. I don&#039;t advocate a lot of unnecessary mess.

I really do not know what more to say because I just did not think I would come across this here on this blog.

Pro-activity is key in all we do. Every man has a choice.

&lt;em&gt;LaTara Ham-Ying&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 - Vegan Snacks&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I am very saddened by what I am reading. I am a vegan. Not because of animal rights, or anything like that; but for other reasons. I am healthier as a result of going vegan.</p>
<p>Judging a person because they are or are not is not right. This is why I am so hesitant at times to share my journey, even though I have a vegan business. It is still very painful.</p>
<p>Being a vegan is just like being a meat eater. It is all about balance. The same vitamins that are in meat can be found in many fruits, vegetables, grains, and other items. Here is a good place to learn more <a href="http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/where_nutrients.htm" >http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/where_nutrients.htm</a></p>
<p>I am sorry that some of you have had a bad experience being vegetarian or vegan. But I do not think it is fair to knock it if you do not know all there is to know about it.</p>
<p>I never judge someone because of what they choose to eat. I do share, however, the fact that if you do choose to eat meat, make sure it is as organic as possible and is free range. I tell them same about dairy.</p>
<p>I do not follow  PETA or any vegetarian or vegan societies that promote treating people wrong. I just don&#8217;t roll like that. I don&#8217;t advocate a lot of unnecessary mess.</p>
<p>I really do not know what more to say because I just did not think I would come across this here on this blog.</p>
<p>Pro-activity is key in all we do. Every man has a choice.</p>
<p><em>LaTara Ham-Ying&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8' >Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 &#8211; Vegan Snacks</a></p>
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		<title>By: I Like It Raw Baby - Food That Is &#187; Natural Family Living Blog</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1982</link>
		<dc:creator>I Like It Raw Baby - Food That Is &#187; Natural Family Living Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all started several weeks ago when I had some good conversations with readers after my post on vegetarianism and veganism that sparked so much controversy. It was suggested that maybe I might have felt different about my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kids Dish &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vegetarian Carnival</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator>Kids Dish &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vegetarian Carnival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this week&#8217;s edition Tiffany Washko writes a piece called  Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me… posted at Natural Family Living Blog. A former vegetarian, Tiffany is bothered by the tone of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mama k</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1980</link>
		<dc:creator>mama k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very well written post.  While I strive to eat less meat in my diet... mostly because I do not like the way conventional meat is processed, I have struggled with the though of going completely vegeterian or vegan.
I have always had this feeling that humans are by nature omnivores and it seems that your resources confirm that.
For me, it is more productive to focus my time and resources on consuming organic/free range animal products on a limited basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very well written post.  While I strive to eat less meat in my diet&#8230; mostly because I do not like the way conventional meat is processed, I have struggled with the though of going completely vegeterian or vegan.<br />
I have always had this feeling that humans are by nature omnivores and it seems that your resources confirm that.<br />
For me, it is more productive to focus my time and resources on consuming organic/free range animal products on a limited basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weston Price traveled the world studying the healthiest cultures, and said non-categorically, &quot;It is significant that I have as yet found no group that was building and maintaining good bodies exclusively on plant foods. A number of groups are endeavoring to do so with marked evidence of failure.&quot; (from Nutrition and Physical Degeneration).

This is doubtless because meat contains many nutrients that are missing or in short supply in fruit and vegetables. Here&#039;s a partial list: B-vitamins, vitamins A, D, K2, iron, zinc, taurine, carnitine, carnosine, long-chain omega fatty acids. I also wanted to respond to a  comment made in post #17 about other cultures that don&#039;t eat much meat; I assume she&#039;s talking about Asian cultures. I want to point out that practically every sauce and soup in these cultures is made with fish sauce and/or broth, so some kind of meat product is consumed with every single meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weston Price traveled the world studying the healthiest cultures, and said non-categorically, &#8220;It is significant that I have as yet found no group that was building and maintaining good bodies exclusively on plant foods. A number of groups are endeavoring to do so with marked evidence of failure.&#8221; (from Nutrition and Physical Degeneration).</p>
<p>This is doubtless because meat contains many nutrients that are missing or in short supply in fruit and vegetables. Here&#8217;s a partial list: B-vitamins, vitamins A, D, K2, iron, zinc, taurine, carnitine, carnosine, long-chain omega fatty acids. I also wanted to respond to a  comment made in post #17 about other cultures that don&#8217;t eat much meat; I assume she&#8217;s talking about Asian cultures. I want to point out that practically every sauce and soup in these cultures is made with fish sauce and/or broth, so some kind of meat product is consumed with every single meal.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..I ruffle when I hear the the vegans are compassionate and everyone else is cruel line.</description>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could general society please stop taking PETA as the authoritative voice on veg*nism &amp; animal rights? The numbers of veg*ns who detest PETA, &amp; the diversity in philosophy among veg*ns in general, are great.

Also, just wanted to echo the comment about how &quot;happy meat&quot; still results in killing an animal for your own purposes. Not compassionate!

Not to mention, w/things like &quot;cage free&quot; eggs, there is often not much of a difference in how the chickens are treated @ all, from the factory farming that &quot;cage free&quot; is supposed to be an improvement of.</description>
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<p>Also, just wanted to echo the comment about how &#8220;happy meat&#8221; still results in killing an animal for your own purposes. Not compassionate!</p>
<p>Not to mention, w/things like &#8220;cage free&#8221; eggs, there is often not much of a difference in how the chickens are treated @ all, from the factory farming that &#8220;cage free&#8221; is supposed to be an improvement of.</p>
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		<title>By: diet &#187; Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me…</title>
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		<dc:creator>diet &#187; Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Healthy Diet &#187; Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healthy Diet &#187; Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tiffany wrote an interesting post today on Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me&#226;&#166;Here&#8217;s a quick excerptI read a book not long ago called Full Moon Feast which discusses the human diet and eating with the seasons and it had some interesting information about the fact that no healthy vegetarian groups have ever been found. &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ran across a new study that shows vegetarian is not better for New York:

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ran across a new study that shows vegetarian is not better for New York:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html" >http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that vegetarians should also be concerned about their produce being non-organic and the environmental problems that causes. Actually most of the people I know who are vegan or vegetarian are also concerned about these issues. One of the good things about not eating meat for them, has actually been that they can afford organically grown local produce. However, I think most people don&#039;t see non-organic food as being unethical on the same levels as eating meat. Many people who are passionate vegans really believe meat is murder. For them not eating meat is not only a health and environmental issue but a moral issue as well, however they may not see the connection between farming in a non-organic way and that hurting animals as well as humans. Many people simply forget that pesticides kill birds and bees and pollute are rivers and streams. Small family farms may produce meat in a more ethical way, but it&#039;s still meat so for vegans and vegetarians who truly believe that meat is bad for our health, bad for the environment and unethical, that doesn&#039;t make a difference to them. Cutting back on meat is great for any family. But I also don&#039;t think every family can afford organic meat, so for those families being vegetarian may be a good option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that vegetarians should also be concerned about their produce being non-organic and the environmental problems that causes. Actually most of the people I know who are vegan or vegetarian are also concerned about these issues. One of the good things about not eating meat for them, has actually been that they can afford organically grown local produce. However, I think most people don&#8217;t see non-organic food as being unethical on the same levels as eating meat. Many people who are passionate vegans really believe meat is murder. For them not eating meat is not only a health and environmental issue but a moral issue as well, however they may not see the connection between farming in a non-organic way and that hurting animals as well as humans. Many people simply forget that pesticides kill birds and bees and pollute are rivers and streams. Small family farms may produce meat in a more ethical way, but it&#8217;s still meat so for vegans and vegetarians who truly believe that meat is bad for our health, bad for the environment and unethical, that doesn&#8217;t make a difference to them. Cutting back on meat is great for any family. But I also don&#8217;t think every family can afford organic meat, so for those families being vegetarian may be a good option.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Luxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama Luxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a vegetarian and I cook meat for my family and friends.

I went vegetarian almost two decades ago because I just don&#039;t like eating meat. However, I do know that many animals eat other animals.

Meat can be beneficial when consumed in moderation (though I do get concerned sometimes about how the animals are raised--both for their quality of life and for our health).  I think most people in the West would be better off if they ate LESS meat...but I don&#039;t think they have to stop consuming meat altogether just because I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a vegetarian and I cook meat for my family and friends.</p>
<p>I went vegetarian almost two decades ago because I just don&#8217;t like eating meat. However, I do know that many animals eat other animals.</p>
<p>Meat can be beneficial when consumed in moderation (though I do get concerned sometimes about how the animals are raised&#8211;both for their quality of life and for our health).  I think most people in the West would be better off if they ate LESS meat&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think they have to stop consuming meat altogether just because I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Cindy...and excellent point about the bananas and soy beans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Cindy&#8230;and excellent point about the bananas and soy beans.</p>
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