Comments on: Illegal Book Discussion Part Three http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/ Green and Natural Parenting Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: barry b. http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2723 barry b. Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:29:39 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2723 Great post - picked it up from carnival. Recently I've heard a lot of people complaining about libertarians and how their "free market" policies would lead to corporate take over. On the contrary we see that corporate take over has already occurred - weaving their power into the fabric of government regulation............this done to eliminate competition from the "little guy." This is the exact opposite of what the law should be accomplishing. Laws in this country continue to make it more and more difficult for lower income and uneducated people to ever have a chance at starting their own business and thus pull themselves out of poverty. Oh well enough babbling for today. Thanks for the info you posted - will pass it along to my friends and family. <em>barry b.'s last blog post..</em><a href='http://debtprison.net/wordpress/?p=55' rel="nofollow">Ron Paul with Tim Russert - You can?t box Dr. Paul in!</a> Great post – picked it up from carnival. Recently I’ve heard a lot of people complaining about libertarians and how their “free market” policies would lead to corporate take over. On the contrary we see that corporate take over has already occurred – weaving their power into the fabric of government regulation…………this done to eliminate competition from the “little guy.” This is the exact opposite of what the law should be accomplishing. Laws in this country continue to make it more and more difficult for lower income and uneducated people to ever have a chance at starting their own business and thus pull themselves out of poverty. Oh well enough babbling for today. Thanks for the info you posted – will pass it along to my friends and family.

barry b.’s last blog post..Ron Paul with Tim Russert – You can?t box Dr. Paul in!

]]> By: Tiffany http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2722 Tiffany Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:31:48 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2722 BTW...thanks for your comments Rick! BTW…thanks for your comments Rick!

]]> By: Tiffany http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2721 Tiffany Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:30:23 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2721 I can see both sides of the debate but for me it is kind of mute because with so much garbage organic being certified now I still have to research all my food sources and companies and consumers could have done that in the first place if they really cared about organic. Certified organic is still helpful but it loses more and more meaning every year as unethical companies mange to get certified and the standards get weakened. Most consumers will not be hip to that though. Education of the consumer is where we need to concentrate. I can see both sides of the debate but for me it is kind of mute because with so much garbage organic being certified now I still have to research all my food sources and companies and consumers could have done that in the first place if they really cared about organic. Certified organic is still helpful but it loses more and more meaning every year as unethical companies mange to get certified and the standards get weakened. Most consumers will not be hip to that though.

Education of the consumer is where we need to concentrate.

]]> By: RickRussellTX http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2720 RickRussellTX Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:21:34 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2720 I'm not sure the existence of a government label for organic would really make a difference -- the fact is, if it was advantageous to do so, companies would have put the organic label on products without government approval and without sticking to organic principles. Then consumers would have no way to know what was organic. I’m not sure the existence of a government label for organic would really make a difference — the fact is, if it was advantageous to do so, companies would have put the organic label on products without government approval and without sticking to organic principles. Then consumers would have no way to know what was organic.

]]> By: Tiffany http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2719 Tiffany Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:16:05 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2719 A farmer should always try other options first. But if a wolf will attack a cow...what would stop them from attacking a child? There just aren't any simple answers, but if the government wants to make hard and fast rules they best be coming up with some hard and fast solutions IMO. A farmer should always try other options first. But if a wolf will attack a cow…what would stop them from attacking a child? There just aren’t any simple answers, but if the government wants to make hard and fast rules they best be coming up with some hard and fast solutions IMO.

]]> By: Brooke http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2718 Brooke Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:55:12 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2718 I can see the USDA label being used as bad thing, but for many companies it has been a good thing so their customers know their products are really organic. For small farmers there are other organic certifications they can get, from small local, non-government groups, but some labeling is better then no labeling, rather then organic and non-organic produce can both be sold under the organic labeling with no regulation. I also see how animals on the farm land could be a problem, but I would hope and organic farmer would look for better solutions then to kill rare species who are just making a come back. This has been a big issue with free range cattle farmers as wolf populations are growing. However farmers also have to remember that while the wolves may be killing their cattle, they are also killing other wild animals which may at some point threaten their crops. There are many ways to deal with this issue, rather then shooting the animals. I can see the USDA label being used as bad thing, but for many companies it has been a good thing so their customers know their products are really organic. For small farmers there are other organic certifications they can get, from small local, non-government groups, but some labeling is better then no labeling, rather then organic and non-organic produce can both be sold under the organic labeling with no regulation. I also see how animals on the farm land could be a problem, but I would hope and organic farmer would look for better solutions then to kill rare species who are just making a come back. This has been a big issue with free range cattle farmers as wolf populations are growing. However farmers also have to remember that while the wolves may be killing their cattle, they are also killing other wild animals which may at some point threaten their crops. There are many ways to deal with this issue, rather then shooting the animals.

]]> By: Illegal Book Discussion Part Three | time management http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2717 Illegal Book Discussion Part Three | time management Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:12:01 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2717 [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...] [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]

]]> By: RickRussellTX http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2716 RickRussellTX Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:27:09 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2716 "Most gourmet chefs will step outside the USDA safe zone as much as they can." True! A local Houston newspaper (the Houston Press) ran an article about chefs hunting their own deer for venison a couple of years ago. Here it is: http://www.houstonpress.com/2003-11-06/news/shooting-bambi-s-mom/full It's ironic that, in a landscape that has been greatly modified by human habitation, the most humane and ecologically sensible thing to do is to shoot the deer and eat them. “Most gourmet chefs will step outside the USDA safe zone as much as they can.”

True! A local Houston newspaper (the Houston Press) ran an article about chefs hunting their own deer for venison a couple of years ago. Here it is:

http://www.houstonpress.com/2003-11-06/news/shooting-bambi-s-mom/full

It’s ironic that, in a landscape that has been greatly modified by human habitation, the most humane and ecologically sensible thing to do is to shoot the deer and eat them.

]]> By: The Political News You Need to Know » Illegal Book Discussion Part Three http://naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2715 The Political News You Need to Know » Illegal Book Discussion Part Three Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:59:38 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/12/12/illegal-book-discussion-part-three/#comment-2715 [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...] [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]

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