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		<title>By: Finding Your Child's Strengths - A Book Review &#124; Natural Family Living Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] few days back I wrote an article about how I see the public schooling system failing us. It had much to do with the fact that in general public schools require all students to meet the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sweetchuckd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For conclusive reasons that there are many problems in public schools, check out http://detentionslip.org.  It&#039;s a leading source for breaking crazy news in education.</description>
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		<title>By: Jodi</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiffany,

When I took my kids out of public school (for a variety of reasons that did include the &quot;cookie-cutter&quot; reality although that was not at the top of the list at that point) I went ahead and let them finish out the school year. It wasn&#039;t until later on that I learned that I didn&#039;t HAVE to let them finish out the year - a child can be withdrawn at any time, for the most part (although you&#039;ll want to check your state&#039;s specific laws and requirements on this one).  So if you find things getting too difficult with your son, you might consider early withdrawal.  That would have the added benefit of giving him time to &quot;de-school,&quot; the process of un-learning the notion that math can only be done between 9:25 and 10:05 am in THAT particular building and that home is only for playing, not learning.  We had to take a full 9 months of very simplified schooling before getting a solid homeschooling routine that worked well, because the kids were so accustomed to the public school way of doing things.  I believe that a few months of decompression are very wise, and probably the very best advice I got when I took the leap and pulled them out.

All that to say, even in this simple thing, you don&#039;t have to comform if you don&#039;t want to! :-)

Good luck with homeschooling!
Jodi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiffany,</p>
<p>When I took my kids out of public school (for a variety of reasons that did include the &#8220;cookie-cutter&#8221; reality although that was not at the top of the list at that point) I went ahead and let them finish out the school year. It wasn&#8217;t until later on that I learned that I didn&#8217;t HAVE to let them finish out the year &#8211; a child can be withdrawn at any time, for the most part (although you&#8217;ll want to check your state&#8217;s specific laws and requirements on this one).  So if you find things getting too difficult with your son, you might consider early withdrawal.  That would have the added benefit of giving him time to &#8220;de-school,&#8221; the process of un-learning the notion that math can only be done between 9:25 and 10:05 am in THAT particular building and that home is only for playing, not learning.  We had to take a full 9 months of very simplified schooling before getting a solid homeschooling routine that worked well, because the kids were so accustomed to the public school way of doing things.  I believe that a few months of decompression are very wise, and probably the very best advice I got when I took the leap and pulled them out.</p>
<p>All that to say, even in this simple thing, you don&#8217;t have to comform if you don&#8217;t want to! :-)</p>
<p>Good luck with homeschooling!<br />
Jodi</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4279</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit on the fence about this issue. I hated high school and graduated early to weave in and out of community college to figure out what i wanted to do. I don&#039;t think the blame solely falls on the school though. It&#039;s up to the parents to encourage &quot;coloring outside the lines&quot; and believing in themselves enough to build their self confidence.  Unfortunately our society is all about steps; you graduate high school, get a degree, get a job, climb the career ladder, get married, have kids. Those of us who do not fit in this box have a difficult time &quot;conforming&quot; and are then squished and prodded into the box, only to find that it does not fit. I have a 20 month old with my second on the way, so I can&#039;t say I am experiencing the public school system yet but I do live in a town where the school system encourages well rounded academics including art, music, science, and math. I also attended private schools when I was young and I can tell you, they aren&#039;t any better. Talk about conforming into a box.  It&#039;s a group effort, and a matter of parents talking with teachers and the school administrators about what they think is right for their child.

&lt;em&gt;Linda&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.ecomoderate.com/?p=11&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Grape Debate&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit on the fence about this issue. I hated high school and graduated early to weave in and out of community college to figure out what i wanted to do. I don&#8217;t think the blame solely falls on the school though. It&#8217;s up to the parents to encourage &#8220;coloring outside the lines&#8221; and believing in themselves enough to build their self confidence.  Unfortunately our society is all about steps; you graduate high school, get a degree, get a job, climb the career ladder, get married, have kids. Those of us who do not fit in this box have a difficult time &#8220;conforming&#8221; and are then squished and prodded into the box, only to find that it does not fit. I have a 20 month old with my second on the way, so I can&#8217;t say I am experiencing the public school system yet but I do live in a town where the school system encourages well rounded academics including art, music, science, and math. I also attended private schools when I was young and I can tell you, they aren&#8217;t any better. Talk about conforming into a box.  It&#8217;s a group effort, and a matter of parents talking with teachers and the school administrators about what they think is right for their child.</p>
<p><em>Linda&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://www.ecomoderate.com/?p=11' >The Grape Debate</a></p>
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		<title>By: EquMath: Math Lessons &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye Opening Thoughts on Public Education</title>
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		<title>By: blogversary</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  I am a teacher who is a SAHM now. I have taught in both public, private and parochial.  I considered homeschool, but have made the choice to not.  I did fine in school, but I would have benefited from a more rigid curriculum that the public schools offer rather than the more loose curriculum offered at my parochial high school.

My problem is that I hate working, love being a mom, but is there is something to be said about having to do something even if you don&#039;t like it.

My husband is one of those super smart people that was bored in public school, but his parents did not have any other options.  So now he works a good job, but does not have a college degree and he does not know how to really be a good student and so he is slow to return to college.  He wants a degree but does not want to play the game because he never played it in grade/high school.

I am rambling.  My point? All options have pros and cons and I hope that no matter what a parent and child decide that they are behind it 100% and are there helping as much as needed.

&lt;em&gt;blogversary&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://blogversary.blogspot.com/2008/04/4-months-old-my-son-his-presence.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;4 months old; my son... his presence&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  I am a teacher who is a SAHM now. I have taught in both public, private and parochial.  I considered homeschool, but have made the choice to not.  I did fine in school, but I would have benefited from a more rigid curriculum that the public schools offer rather than the more loose curriculum offered at my parochial high school.</p>
<p>My problem is that I hate working, love being a mom, but is there is something to be said about having to do something even if you don&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>My husband is one of those super smart people that was bored in public school, but his parents did not have any other options.  So now he works a good job, but does not have a college degree and he does not know how to really be a good student and so he is slow to return to college.  He wants a degree but does not want to play the game because he never played it in grade/high school.</p>
<p>I am rambling.  My point? All options have pros and cons and I hope that no matter what a parent and child decide that they are behind it 100% and are there helping as much as needed.</p>
<p><em>blogversary&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://blogversary.blogspot.com/2008/04/4-months-old-my-son-his-presence.html' >4 months old; my son&#8230; his presence</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our favorite books is &quot;Better Than School&quot; by Nancy Wallace.  it is older, but it&#039;s a great story about a family who created their home to be a place of learning for their children, and in doing so raised kids well ahead of their peers.  It&#039;s a book that has motivated us to fill our home with books, musical instruments, and other equipment necessary to engage our kids in a way that it fun for them.

Jessica
www.practicalnourishment.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our favorite books is &#8220;Better Than School&#8221; by Nancy Wallace.  it is older, but it&#8217;s a great story about a family who created their home to be a place of learning for their children, and in doing so raised kids well ahead of their peers.  It&#8217;s a book that has motivated us to fill our home with books, musical instruments, and other equipment necessary to engage our kids in a way that it fun for them.</p>
<p>Jessica<br />
<a href="http://www.practicalnourishment.com" >http://www.practicalnourishment.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4275</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t read it Carrie. I will put it on my Amazon wishlist!</description>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiffany have you read John Taylor Gatto&#039;s books? I just finished reading The Underground History of American Education and I challenge anyone to read it and not see HUGE gaping problems with the public school system.

I&#039;m geting ready to write a review of the book on my blog soon. He puts into words what I feel, and much more eloquently than I can. And he was a public school teacher for over 30 years.

&lt;em&gt;Carrie&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://naturalmomstalkradio.com/blog/attachment-parenting-website-for-sale/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Attachment Parenting Website For Sale&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiffany have you read John Taylor Gatto&#8217;s books? I just finished reading The Underground History of American Education and I challenge anyone to read it and not see HUGE gaping problems with the public school system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m geting ready to write a review of the book on my blog soon. He puts into words what I feel, and much more eloquently than I can. And he was a public school teacher for over 30 years.</p>
<p><em>Carrie&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://naturalmomstalkradio.com/blog/attachment-parenting-website-for-sale/' >Attachment Parenting Website For Sale</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4273</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I would like to respond to Sommer and Sara. I am training to become a public school teacher. I am actually getting ready to do my student teaching. As I have gone through the program, learned about the public school system, and done internships in classrooms, I am more and more sure of my decision to home school my kids when they get to that age. Yes, I have run into a few teachers that try their hardest to meet each child&#039;s needs and want to go against the grain. But realistically, I haven&#039;t seen it to work very well. There IS a cookie cutter standard and if a child doesn&#039;t meet that standard they are labeled. Which unfortunately can effect the way that child feels about himself and effect the way his peers think about him.  I definitely believe that there are better options to public school. Let me backtrack to when I was growing up. I never particularly liked school. Didn&#039;t hate it but didn&#039;t like it either. I didn&#039;t start going to school until 1st grade. My mom kept us home and we did projects with her. When people ask me about it now I can tell you the moment I stopped liking to learn. The moment I stepped into my 1st grade classroom. We were all doing the same worksheets and doing the same boring reading. When I go into a classroom I don&#039;t find to many kids that actually want to be there. This just gets worse as the kids get older. Learning should be fun! I didn&#039;t start to think learning could be fun until I met my husband and he showed me that I could learn things on my own. It took a while to start thinking outside the box of what I had been taught learning is. In the past three years I have learned more that I ever have, but only because I have made the effort to learn. If I had continued the line of thinking I learned in public schools I would still be under the impression that learning is boring. All that being said, I decided to go to school to become a teacher because I want to change the way public schools are now. We shouldn&#039;t have a list of things that students have to have done by a certain age. We shouldn&#039;t be teaching to the test. Every time I walk into one of my education classes at school I get frustrated because things seem to be getting worse and not better. As a person training to be a public school teacher, I would NEVER put my kids in public school. I am still going to be actively involved in changing the way public school is run, but until things actually change my kids won&#039;t go there.

Ok...this is getting long so now I want to comment on the actually article. I loved it! I am going to forward it on to my friends. I thought that the 10 reasons to not like public school were very true. And Calvin is one of my favorite cartoons. :o)

Great post Tiffany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I would like to respond to Sommer and Sara. I am training to become a public school teacher. I am actually getting ready to do my student teaching. As I have gone through the program, learned about the public school system, and done internships in classrooms, I am more and more sure of my decision to home school my kids when they get to that age. Yes, I have run into a few teachers that try their hardest to meet each child&#8217;s needs and want to go against the grain. But realistically, I haven&#8217;t seen it to work very well. There IS a cookie cutter standard and if a child doesn&#8217;t meet that standard they are labeled. Which unfortunately can effect the way that child feels about himself and effect the way his peers think about him.  I definitely believe that there are better options to public school. Let me backtrack to when I was growing up. I never particularly liked school. Didn&#8217;t hate it but didn&#8217;t like it either. I didn&#8217;t start going to school until 1st grade. My mom kept us home and we did projects with her. When people ask me about it now I can tell you the moment I stopped liking to learn. The moment I stepped into my 1st grade classroom. We were all doing the same worksheets and doing the same boring reading. When I go into a classroom I don&#8217;t find to many kids that actually want to be there. This just gets worse as the kids get older. Learning should be fun! I didn&#8217;t start to think learning could be fun until I met my husband and he showed me that I could learn things on my own. It took a while to start thinking outside the box of what I had been taught learning is. In the past three years I have learned more that I ever have, but only because I have made the effort to learn. If I had continued the line of thinking I learned in public schools I would still be under the impression that learning is boring. All that being said, I decided to go to school to become a teacher because I want to change the way public schools are now. We shouldn&#8217;t have a list of things that students have to have done by a certain age. We shouldn&#8217;t be teaching to the test. Every time I walk into one of my education classes at school I get frustrated because things seem to be getting worse and not better. As a person training to be a public school teacher, I would NEVER put my kids in public school. I am still going to be actively involved in changing the way public school is run, but until things actually change my kids won&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>Ok&#8230;this is getting long so now I want to comment on the actually article. I loved it! I am going to forward it on to my friends. I thought that the 10 reasons to not like public school were very true. And Calvin is one of my favorite cartoons. :o)</p>
<p>Great post Tiffany.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4272</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;IMO being a ceritified teacher doesn’t automatically make you qualifed to teach.&quot;

Exactly. My husband&#039;s mom is a college educated certified teacher in the state of Texas, and now that the kids are out of the house, she does teach in a school, and it FREAKS ME OUT!  Super sadly, IMO, is that they were a part of a Homeschool Association, but they still did not get the help they needed in some subjects.

I have no problem with homeschooling. I know it does not work for me at this time, and those who can do it and do it well should be rewarded rather than chastised, but those who are not qualified and/or have weaknesses they are unwilling to admit create a bad image for those who are doing it well.

&lt;em&gt;Maria&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://mariaandkevin.blogspot.com/2008/04/basketball-mourning.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Basketball mourning....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IMO being a ceritified teacher doesn’t automatically make you qualifed to teach.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. My husband&#8217;s mom is a college educated certified teacher in the state of Texas, and now that the kids are out of the house, she does teach in a school, and it FREAKS ME OUT!  Super sadly, IMO, is that they were a part of a Homeschool Association, but they still did not get the help they needed in some subjects.</p>
<p>I have no problem with homeschooling. I know it does not work for me at this time, and those who can do it and do it well should be rewarded rather than chastised, but those who are not qualified and/or have weaknesses they are unwilling to admit create a bad image for those who are doing it well.</p>
<p><em>Maria&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://mariaandkevin.blogspot.com/2008/04/basketball-mourning.html' >Basketball mourning&#8230;.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4271</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria,

I understand your point that not all parents are qualified to be their chidlren&#039;s one and only teacher...kind of. But most homeschoolers I know...myself included...will outsource what we can&#039;t do. My son loves math so if he wants to learn advanced algebra and calculus I know that I will not be the best person to teach him...although my hubby could. Sooo...I will get him a math tutor when that times comes. If he wants to learn to play the violin I will get him a voilin teacher. If he wants to learn Japanese I will hook him up with the resources he needs. MOST of the homeschool mamas I know would do the same.

IMO being a ceritified teacher doesn&#039;t automatically make you qualifed to teach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria,</p>
<p>I understand your point that not all parents are qualified to be their chidlren&#8217;s one and only teacher&#8230;kind of. But most homeschoolers I know&#8230;myself included&#8230;will outsource what we can&#8217;t do. My son loves math so if he wants to learn advanced algebra and calculus I know that I will not be the best person to teach him&#8230;although my hubby could. Sooo&#8230;I will get him a math tutor when that times comes. If he wants to learn to play the violin I will get him a voilin teacher. If he wants to learn Japanese I will hook him up with the resources he needs. MOST of the homeschool mamas I know would do the same.</p>
<p>IMO being a ceritified teacher doesn&#8217;t automatically make you qualifed to teach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sommer and Sara,

I don&#039;t think the problem is the teachers or administrators for the most part. Often times they have to struggle with the same issues I mentioned above. In fact my son&#039;s teacher doesn&#039;t actually think my son is academically behind at all...but yet the standards she HAS to follow would require here to flunk my son out if his reading and writing doesn&#039;t improve and fall in line with cookie cutter standards. That is her reality and she doesn&#039;t agree with it. I feel for teachers who want to teach a certain way and can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sommer and Sara,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the problem is the teachers or administrators for the most part. Often times they have to struggle with the same issues I mentioned above. In fact my son&#8217;s teacher doesn&#8217;t actually think my son is academically behind at all&#8230;but yet the standards she HAS to follow would require here to flunk my son out if his reading and writing doesn&#8217;t improve and fall in line with cookie cutter standards. That is her reality and she doesn&#8217;t agree with it. I feel for teachers who want to teach a certain way and can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a public school teacher, I completely agree with Sommer&#039;s comment.  While it cannot be said that all public school teachers try hard to teach to the individual learner and foster creative learning and independent learning, there are some out there that do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a public school teacher, I completely agree with Sommer&#8217;s comment.  While it cannot be said that all public school teachers try hard to teach to the individual learner and foster creative learning and independent learning, there are some out there that do!</p>
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		<title>By: Sommer</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4268</link>
		<dc:creator>Sommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiffany,
I am going to try not to be biased (as a public school teacher) because I am also a parent and I want my children to be where they will thrive and learn to their greatest potential.  In fact, I have wanted this for every single student I have ever taught.  I think what we have to do is not be so general because public school serves many very well and the children are not treated like a herd of sheep and to all be the same. I actually resent that as a teacher. Uniquness and individuallity is very important to me and many fellow teachers I know.  Public school administrators, districts, individual schools, teachers and curriculum are not all the same and as unified as one might think.  Private school, home school, alternative education, online school, and public school are all options and what we should be recognizing is how wonderful all of these options are.  Not one is better than the other. Instead, they provide choices and give parents and children more opportunities to foster growth.  When a parent chooses to homeschool that is their choice but if one is unhappy with the public schools pulling them out to homeschool isn&#039;t always the only option.

One last comment, your discussion with your son, wasn&#039;t that bad, in my opinion.  Telling your son it was his responsibility isn&#039;t telling him that school is drudgery or doesn&#039;t have to be fun. It is being a realistic mom and pointing out that sometimes we don&#039;t want to do things but once we&#039;re there it&#039;s what we make of it. I don&#039;t like to get up and change diapers and wash sippy cups but I love to play with my kids and get hugs and kisses and teach them.  Sometimes you  might not like to go some place but you like to see your friends and you like recess and you like math, etc. Pointing out the positives changes the entire conversation.

As always, great post.

&lt;em&gt;Sommer&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AShadeOfGreen/~3/262152679/win-bpa-free-camelbak-water-bottle-no.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Win a BPA FREE CamelBak Water Bottle (no fooling)!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiffany,<br />
I am going to try not to be biased (as a public school teacher) because I am also a parent and I want my children to be where they will thrive and learn to their greatest potential.  In fact, I have wanted this for every single student I have ever taught.  I think what we have to do is not be so general because public school serves many very well and the children are not treated like a herd of sheep and to all be the same. I actually resent that as a teacher. Uniquness and individuallity is very important to me and many fellow teachers I know.  Public school administrators, districts, individual schools, teachers and curriculum are not all the same and as unified as one might think.  Private school, home school, alternative education, online school, and public school are all options and what we should be recognizing is how wonderful all of these options are.  Not one is better than the other. Instead, they provide choices and give parents and children more opportunities to foster growth.  When a parent chooses to homeschool that is their choice but if one is unhappy with the public schools pulling them out to homeschool isn&#8217;t always the only option.</p>
<p>One last comment, your discussion with your son, wasn&#8217;t that bad, in my opinion.  Telling your son it was his responsibility isn&#8217;t telling him that school is drudgery or doesn&#8217;t have to be fun. It is being a realistic mom and pointing out that sometimes we don&#8217;t want to do things but once we&#8217;re there it&#8217;s what we make of it. I don&#8217;t like to get up and change diapers and wash sippy cups but I love to play with my kids and get hugs and kisses and teach them.  Sometimes you  might not like to go some place but you like to see your friends and you like recess and you like math, etc. Pointing out the positives changes the entire conversation.</p>
<p>As always, great post.</p>
<p><em>Sommer&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AShadeOfGreen/~3/262152679/win-bpa-free-camelbak-water-bottle-no.html' >Win a BPA FREE CamelBak Water Bottle (no fooling)!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a positive public school experience...mostly... but I also had teachers who allowed us to question the norm and encouraged us to think rather than recite. My husband was homeschooled and unfortunately has his mother&#039;s academic weaknesses, which plagued him in college and continue to do so today. Our intent is to put our son in a private school with student-lead lessons (i.e. recognizing cues and introducing concepts/lessons around those cues) and multi-age classrooms.

That being said, if our son is not thriving in that situation, we will pursue other options. No need for him to hate school/learning/etc.

&lt;em&gt;Maria&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://mariaandkevin.blogspot.com/2008/04/basketball-mourning.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Basketball mourning....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a positive public school experience&#8230;mostly&#8230; but I also had teachers who allowed us to question the norm and encouraged us to think rather than recite. My husband was homeschooled and unfortunately has his mother&#8217;s academic weaknesses, which plagued him in college and continue to do so today. Our intent is to put our son in a private school with student-lead lessons (i.e. recognizing cues and introducing concepts/lessons around those cues) and multi-age classrooms.</p>
<p>That being said, if our son is not thriving in that situation, we will pursue other options. No need for him to hate school/learning/etc.</p>
<p><em>Maria&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://mariaandkevin.blogspot.com/2008/04/basketball-mourning.html' >Basketball mourning&#8230;.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://naturemoms.com/blog/2008/04/02/eye-opening-thoughts-on-public-education/#comment-4266</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh... I loved this!  You have summed quite nicely the problems I have with public school.  I used to feel much the same way- I personally had a positive experience in school so I didn&#039;t see anything wrong with it.  I was blessed with a &quot;crazy, out there&quot; professor in teaching school of all places, in my educational philosophy class, who got me questioning the purpose of education.  After that class, I had a hard time wanting to teach in public schools- where I really didn&#039;t have much control over a lot of things,  so now I&#039;m homeschooling

&lt;em&gt;Dawn&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RenaissanceMama/~3/262247790/whats-inside-my-purse.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s Inside My Purse&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh&#8230; I loved this!  You have summed quite nicely the problems I have with public school.  I used to feel much the same way- I personally had a positive experience in school so I didn&#8217;t see anything wrong with it.  I was blessed with a &#8220;crazy, out there&#8221; professor in teaching school of all places, in my educational philosophy class, who got me questioning the purpose of education.  After that class, I had a hard time wanting to teach in public schools- where I really didn&#8217;t have much control over a lot of things,  so now I&#8217;m homeschooling</p>
<p><em>Dawn&#8217;s last blog post..</em><a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RenaissanceMama/~3/262247790/whats-inside-my-purse.html' >What&#8217;s Inside My Purse</a></p>
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